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#128479 - 05/24/05 09:41 PM What woman of Legend or Fiction do you identify?
anneliese Offline


Registered: 12/01/02
Loc: Long Beach, CA
There are incredible women of strength, beauty and cunning thoughout the ages. Many are incorporated in literature, including Helen of Troy, Cleopatra (and Antony, her squeeze),
Orlando, Saint Joan...

Mine is Kundry


There is also the independent, strong woman Annie Oakley to admire:


So ladies, are there any other Kundry and Western fans out there?
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#128480 - 05/24/05 09:59 PM Re: What woman of Legend or Fiction do you identify?
nexy Offline
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Registered: 02/16/03
Loc: phoenix, az
rogue, of x-men fame is my ultimate heroine.

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#128481 - 05/24/05 10:28 PM Re: What woman of Legend or Fiction do you identify?
Karen S Offline
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Registered: 06/28/04
Loc: Metro Detroit...
What a great question...jeez, louise...

Scarlett O'Hare, at the very end of her story, when she finally gets a clue about people. Her determination is awesome, as is her fire...Most importantly, I admire her willingness to ignore public disfavor as she goes through her life...

I try to get past her "selfish bitch" aspect...

I really like the 2 female lead characters from Cold Mountain, too. Ida, and Ruby. Especially Ruby...

Both have inner grace, even though Ruby's seem's unrefined...but she lives her life with as much depth as she discovers every day, and with an incredible earnestness.

Ida for similar reasons, because she grows so much in the film.

I love that movie, absolutely...plus the book is wonderful too. Very different, but wonderful.


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#128482 - 05/24/05 10:42 PM Re: What woman of Legend or Fiction do you identify?
Lana_D Offline


Registered: 03/09/04
If I have to only pick one, well now.


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In life, Hope's father was Matthias, an evil man who ruled a kingdom. He also conjured demons in an attempt to enter Hell and challenge Lucifer himself for control. When the peasants eventually revolted, they stormed the Castle, and killed Mathias. They also took Hope, believing her to be a witch, and prepared to burn her at the stake! In a desperate attempt to escape, Hope recalled her father's words, and she conjured up the same demons. When they appeared, they told her that they could free her, if and only if, she renounced her humanity. Seeking any escape from certain death, Hope did just that, and renounced her humanity. She was instantly transported into Hell as a result. She was then given power by Lucifer, who saw her as a pawn in the battle between himself, and her father. She eventually realized that she was being used in this battle, and rose up herself, defeated Lucifer, and she became the power in control of Hell!

Lady Death is produced by Chaos Comics and received her own title in 1994. Lady Death is considered by many to have started the "Bad Girl" craze. Unlike most comics Lady Death has been put out in a number of mini series instead of a continuing series format.





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#128483 - 05/24/05 11:24 PM Re: What woman of Legend or Fiction do you ident
anneliese Offline


Registered: 12/01/02
Loc: Long Beach, CA
A little more on Kundry, the only female (except for the sirens) in the Wagner masterpiece Parcifal. I was in London when the premiere of Syberberg's film Parcifal made its British debut in 1983. It is a visually stunning film, considered the greatest operatic adaption ever filmed. I've had a copy of it on video since it was broadcast on Bravo.

Here is a particularly amazing thing about the Syberberg Parcival that is quite similar to Woolf's Orlando:

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Syberberg regards Kundry as the centre of the opera, and so chose for the part the outstanding German actress, Edith Clever . Her incarnation of Kundry as variously mother, seductress and penitent has been unanimously praised as a performance of hair-raising intensity. Parsifal himself is played by two people, first a boy (Michael Kutter) and then, after Kundry's kiss, by a girl (Karin Krick), a coup- de- theatre for which Syberberg gives no complete explanation, although he has said that it attempts to render Parsifal as a person with both masculine and feminine poles, which in the final act come together to create a paradisiacal man, an androgyne. He has also said that it counteracts Wagner's depiction of an exclusively masculine redemption. However, even as a device of staging alone, it works extraordinarily well when we hear Goldberg's voice come from Karin Krick, her face radiantly pure.




Perhaps it is not simply the idea of Kundry as the amazing actress in Syberberg's Parcival that intrigues me. Edith Clever (no relation to June) gives an incredibly intense performance, then has her voice dubbed by the mezzo-soprano Yvonne Minton.

Anneliese

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#128484 - 05/24/05 11:37 PM Re: What woman of Legend or Fiction do you ident
NULL Offline
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Registered: 08/01/04
Valeria

Warrior and thief


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#128485 - 05/25/05 12:51 AM Re: What woman of Legend or Fiction do you ident
Lana_D Offline


Registered: 03/09/04
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Valeria

Warrior and thief


She's cool to.

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#128486 - 05/25/05 02:12 AM Re: What woman of Legend or Fiction do you ident
Shasta Offline
Ultimate Goddess

Registered: 07/20/04
Loc: Australia
Somedays i feel like jezabel:



Sometimes like the Vrigin Mary:



Mostly like Lydia Lunch:


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#128487 - 05/25/05 02:12 AM Re: What woman of Legend or Fiction do you ident
Shasta Offline
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Registered: 07/20/04
Loc: Australia
oops it posted twice!!!


Edited by charlotte_oz (05/25/05 02:18 AM)

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#128488 - 05/25/05 06:18 AM Re: What woman of Legend or Fiction do you ident
anneliese Offline


Registered: 12/01/02
Loc: Long Beach, CA
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Valeria

Warrior and thief






And a Professor of Mathematics who speaks fluent Italian..EXCELLENT CHOICE!!
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