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#279214 - 05/15/08 09:38 AM Re: NPR news piece on kids with GID [Re: Joan]
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Originally Posted By: Joan
Transgender or gay parents are a threat, because they truly want the children they adopt.


Please clarify what you meant.
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#279216 - 05/15/08 10:07 AM Re: NPR news piece on kids with GID [Re: Hope_WA]
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Gay and tran parents love their children for who they are instead of selfish motives some parents have... Example, OMG, what will the neighbors think, my child is just confused - not gay - there must be doctors to fix him/her!!!
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#279303 - 05/16/08 08:26 AM Re: NPR news piece on kids with GID [Re: Hope_WA]
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Originally Posted By: Joan
Transgender or gay parents are a threat, because they truly want the children they adopt.


Please clarify what you meant.


That is a an example of a stupid typographical error, Joan style. My fingers do not always stay in sync with my brain. computernerd

I meant to say gay and transgender are not a threat, because they truly want the children they adopt.

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#279305 - 05/16/08 08:44 AM Re: NPR news piece on kids with GID [Re: Joan]
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Registered: 08/14/07
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Whew!
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"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." Henry David Thoreau

His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
Jesus answered, "Neither he nor his parents sinned; it is so that the works of God might be made visible through him. "
John 9:2-3

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#279351 - 05/16/08 02:44 PM Re: NPR news piece on kids with GID [Re: AmyMcNeil]
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Registered: 05/13/08
Darlie and Amy, I got the same plus corporal punishment. My father would beat me to convince me that I was not a girl. I have blocked out most of my early years, but I know he beat me until I was unconscious three times before I began going to school. Eventually, I began going along to get along... just don't beat me again. I put Zucker in the same pool as my dad, only he is trying to beat us all. Everyone needs to write the American Psychiatric Association to get him off the committee!
Originally Posted By: AmyMcNeil
Originally Posted By: Darlie
"Zucker, who has worked with this population for close to 30 years, has a very specific method for treating these children. Whenever Zucker encounters a child younger than 10 with gender identity disorder, he tries to make the child comfortable with the sex he or she was born with.

So, to treat Bradley, Zucker explained to Carol that she and her husband would have to radically change their parenting. Bradley would no longer be allowed to spend time with girls. He would no longer be allowed to play with girlish toys or pretend that he was a female character. Zucker said that all of these activities were dangerous to a kid with gender identity disorder. He explained that unless Carol and her husband helped the child to change his behavior, as Bradley grew older, he likely would be rejected by both peer groups. Boys would find his feminine interests unappealing. Girls would want more boyish boys. Bradley would be an outcast."



I was raised this way. It doesn't work. It just wastes time.


I had the same experience Darlie. All it did was delay the inevitable and make me miserable in the interim. I learned how to lie about how I felt, how to put on a "happy shell" even though I was miserable inside, how to withdraw from those around me and become a loner, an outcast. Didn't matter that well meaning folk were trying to "help me be a man", it just wasn't who I was. And the longer that who I really was inside was denied the more depressed I became. Suicide attempts, drug addiction, not continuing with education, etc., all manifested out of a denial of my spirit. Following Zucker's path only results in more damaged unhappy individuals, contrasted with the compassionate approach taken to treat the other child who was happy and growing. It was obvious from the way the parents of Bradley were talking that she was not happy, was not comfortable with the sex that she was born with, and that all Zucker was doing was making things worse, not better.

It's about time that our condition be recognized for what it is, just another variation of the human spirit and a cause for celebration, not denial. I hope that I get to see this in my lifetime. Meanwhile, I've got letters to write....

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