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#282172 - 06/08/08 03:57 PM cuba approves of free sex changes!
nikkigirl Offline
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Registered: 08/09/05
Loc: pennsylvania
i just read of the msn homepage that cuba is now offering free sex changes to citizens on the island.maybe someone can provide a link to it.
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#282173 - 06/08/08 04:07 PM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: nikkigirl]
Joan Offline
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#282174 - 06/08/08 04:35 PM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: Joan]
ClaireNB Offline
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Registered: 04/13/08
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28 in 11 million? Yeah... Sounds like a pretty severe low-balling, to me. Outstrips even the DSM-IV's estimate.

Also, I wonder who will be performing these surgeries? Are they going to send someone out to apprentice for a few years with an experienced SRS surgeon, or this gonna be some green n00b fumbling a scalpel all over the place and muttering, "Hm, how about this over here..."?
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#282185 - 06/08/08 05:25 PM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: ClaireNB]
hollyb Offline
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Registered: 05/16/03
Loc: Northern California
Originally Posted By: ClaireNB
Also, I wonder who will be performing these surgeries? Are they going to send someone out to apprentice for a few years with an experienced SRS surgeon, or this gonna be some green n00b fumbling a scalpel all over the place and muttering, "Hm, how about this over here..."?
According to the reports they have surgeons mentoring in Belgium.
That being so the first surgeries may very well be FTM.

In any case US citizens are not allowed to travel to Cuba for medical treatment.
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#282188 - 06/08/08 05:33 PM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: hollyb]
Deena Offline
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Registered: 05/11/06
Originally Posted By: hollyb

In any case US citizens are not allowed to travel to Cuba for medical treatment.

People can sail there without any problem or they can go through Mexico. The Cuban authorities will not stamp your passport thereby avoiding problems with U.S. re-entry.
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#282227 - 06/09/08 04:18 AM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: Deena]
Marcella Offline
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Registered: 03/31/03
Loc: Barn
Cuban surgeons have been all over the world training other surgeons, not to mention that (like in most LatAm countries) there has been an underground surgery market already.

If you got enough money, you can get a good SRS in those countries, even if (on paper) they are illegal. The trick is that you indeed need A LOT of money, the kind of money you couldn't save working legal jobs all your life, if you start poor over there.

By keeping the surgery illegal all they do is inflate the price of good surgery for the rich, and force the poor TS folks to go for some back alley butcher in desperation.
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#282240 - 06/09/08 07:50 AM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: Marcella]
ŢÓRDÍS Offline
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Registered: 11/18/06
For gods sake, stop using the word free. It's far from free.

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#282259 - 06/09/08 09:58 AM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: ŢÓRDÍS]
Kristina Roivas Offline
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Registered: 09/05/07
Loc: Vancouver Canada
While your at it. Would someone please tell the media, To stop using the term "Sex Change". That is very "Tabloidish"
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#282266 - 06/09/08 10:37 AM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: Kristina Roivas]
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But it sells $$$$$$$
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#282279 - 06/09/08 11:52 AM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: Storm]
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Nothing in life is free Sunshine.

But everybody over the age of 10 knows that.
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#282318 - 06/09/08 05:15 PM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: Marcella]
nikkigirl Offline
nikki

Registered: 08/09/05
Loc: pennsylvania
well they had a ''free car wash'' the other day...some church group and yes i bet they want a donation after the wash...these people are as bad as the cubans...i would guess if you qualify and are a cuban citizen it would be part of your health care package.but again...the comrades have to work for it.
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#282346 - 06/09/08 08:55 PM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: nikkigirl]
Joan Offline
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Registered: 09/20/03
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well they had a ''free car wash'' the other day...some church group and yes i bet they want a donation after the wash...these people are as bad as the cubans...i would guess if you qualify and are a cuban citizen it would be part of your health care package.but again...the comrades have to work for it.


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#282493 - 06/10/08 10:34 PM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: Kristina Roivas]
hollyb Offline
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Registered: 05/16/03
Loc: Northern California
Originally Posted By: Kristina Roivas
While your at it. Would someone please tell the media, To stop using the term "Sex Change". That is very "Tabloidish"
It's not a wonderful term, but it's not as harmful as SRS for "Sex Reassignment Surgery" which deflects attention from the fact that sex is assigned with strokes of a pen, and not cuts of a scalpel.
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#282502 - 06/11/08 01:56 AM Re: cuba approves of free sex changes! [Re: hollyb]
glamazon Offline

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Registered: 02/06/03
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Originally Posted By: hollyb
Originally Posted By: Kristina Roivas
While your at it. Would someone please tell the media, To stop using the term "Sex Change". That is very "Tabloidish"
It's not a wonderful term, but it's not as harmful as SRS for "Sex Reassignment Surgery" which deflects attention from the fact that sex is assigned with strokes of a pen, and not cuts of a scalpel.

That's like saying a house is bought with strokes of a pen. True the paperwork is required to make it official, but until money changes hands, the document is meaningless. The same is true with sex reassignment surgery. SRS changes anatomical sex and is required to change legal (assigned) sex. Anything beyond that is a semantical word game.

P.S. Actually the excesses of the real estate insanity of recent somewhat invalidates the "money needs to change hands" but since most of those shady deals resulted in foreclosure, I'd say the basic tenet still holds true.


Edited by glamazon (06/11/08 01:58 AM)
Edit Reason: afterthought
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