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#285038 - 07/03/08 11:21 AM 'pregnant man' gives birth
debbie10020 Offline


Registered: 02/20/08
Loc: nyc
i'll admit i had some qualms about the publicity hog way this was initially handled, but i wish nothing but joy to the parents:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5302756&page=1
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#285043 - 07/03/08 12:05 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: debbie10020]
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Registered: 01/03/06
Loc: Oregon
Well yeah it is great that they are having a child but I am put off by the tagline 'pregnant man'.

Seems misleading, as if he somehow managed to concieve with no womb or ovaries.

Obviously not the case.
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#285044 - 07/03/08 12:17 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: jenny_w]
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Registered: 02/06/03
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Originally Posted By: jenny_w
Well yeah it is great that they are having a child but I am put off by the tagline 'pregnant man'.

Seems misleading, as if he somehow managed to concieve with no womb or ovaries.

Would it not then be misleading for an MTF to be called a woman before she has SRS? That smacks of double standard, Jenny. Thomas Beatie was a man before he became pregnant just as Christine Beatty was a woman while she was still pre-op. We can't have it both ways.
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#285045 - 07/03/08 12:21 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: glamazon]
Roxanne Administrator Offline


Registered: 01/28/03
Loc: Seattle, WA
People aren't interested in fairness, for the most part, so they choose to have it however they want.
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#285047 - 07/03/08 12:51 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: Roxanne]
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Registered: 08/14/07
Loc: Eastern Washington state, U.S....
At least the ABC news article was handled with a little grace, using the proper pronouns and not sensationalizing the story.
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#285053 - 07/03/08 01:56 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: Roxanne]
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Registered: 02/06/03
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Originally Posted By: Roxanne
People aren't interested in fairness, for the most part

I'm totally interested in fairness. That's why I advocate stringing up Barney Log Cabin Frank by his nuts and flogging him with a live electrical wire. I know some people might consider that a bit extreme, but considering the cummulative effective of last fall's betrayal on the lives of all the transpeople who will be harmed by it, it seems like a fair trade to me.

Discussion?
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#285058 - 07/03/08 02:48 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: glamazon]
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Registered: 01/03/06
Loc: Oregon
Well if a guy with a working scrotum has a baby then call me lol!
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#285062 - 07/03/08 04:09 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: glamazon]
debbie10020 Offline


Registered: 02/20/08
Loc: nyc
well, live electrical wire i'm not so sure about........but i certainly felt betrayed and stunned by barney rubble's decision to consign our community to society's scrap heap. were i a mass resident, i'd be voting libertarian/green from now on....

Originally Posted By: glamazon
Originally Posted By: Roxanne
People aren't interested in fairness, for the most par

I'm totally interested in fairness. That's why I advocate stringing up Barney Log Cabin Frank by his nuts and flogging him with a live electrical wire. I know some people might consider that a bit extreme, but considering the cummulative effective of last fall's betrayal on the lives of all the transpeople who will be harmed by it, it seems like a fair trade to me.

Discussion?
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#285075 - 07/03/08 04:53 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: Roxanne]
Marcella Offline
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Registered: 03/31/03
Loc: Barn
Originally Posted By: Roxanne
People aren't interested in fairness, for the most part, so they choose to have it however they want.

Fairness is metalogically impossible.

You'd need a brain that has complete, consistent knowledge for that.
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#285086 - 07/03/08 07:30 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: glamazon]
Deena Offline
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Registered: 05/11/06
Originally Posted By: glamazon
Originally Posted By: Roxanne
People aren't interested in fairness, for the most part

I'm totally interested in fairness. That's why I advocate stringing up Barney Log Cabin Frank by his nuts and flogging him with a live electrical wire. I know some people might consider that a bit extreme, but considering the cummulative effective of last fall's betrayal on the lives of all the transpeople who will be harmed by it, it seems like a fair trade to me.

Discussion?

He didn't hurt anyone but himself. Patience.
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