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#285739 - 07/11/08 02:33 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: Hope_WA]
jenny_w Offline


Registered: 01/03/06
Loc: Oregon
Okay Christine, one last half-hearted try:

You are a woman that used to have a functioning male reproductive system.

So if someone like you or me actually gives birth, hello? then that will be news.

That crap about the man with ovaries being pregnant is far from news.

Gawd.
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#285749 - 07/11/08 04:13 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: jenny_w]
Charlene_Leona Online   content
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Registered: 02/22/07
Loc: St. Louis Mo. 63108
My big gripe about his pregnancy is, He did not give up his reproductive rights to be deemed a man. For me to legally be given a change of gender, I have to be sterilized with at least an orchi & live full time to be re-gendered. But at the same time I have recently be told by some trans-men that it is so expensive for those procedures they have to keep those organ's. So I can understand why it was done but it still does bother me a little because there were jerks in the media talking about trying to make it illegal for a trans person to marry just because of the publicity seeking couple. So for setting us back in the public eye that causes me to be concerned.
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#285753 - 07/11/08 04:36 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: Charlene_Leona]
Glinda Offline


Registered: 02/06/07
Loc: Oz
You can freeze sperm. Just be careful how you label the container. "Preserved Reproductive Rights" sounds a might too tasty. Wouldn't want your house guest giving you a surprise compliment on how tasty they are.
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#285767 - 07/11/08 06:12 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: Glinda]
Charlene_Leona Online   content
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Registered: 02/22/07
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Well you know what the cost of banking sperm is, as well as how long I've been on HRT and an orchi in three days I don't see that being possible. I just thank god that I was able to sire a son before I decided to transition, you just gotta love those little accidents.
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#285778 - 07/11/08 10:47 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: Charlene_Leona]
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Registered: 02/06/03
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Originally Posted By: PhotoGurl
My big gripe about his pregnancy is, He did not give up his reproductive rights to be deemed a man. For me to legally be given a change of gender, I have to be sterilized with at least an orchi & live full time to be re-gendered. But at the same time I have recently be told by some trans-men that it is so expensive for those procedures they have to keep those organ's.

Well, life just isn't fair. But look at it from their point of view. Our relatively inexpensive surgery gives beautiful-looking, functional genitalia. Even with those FTMs with serious money, the medical technology is far from them being able to give them a working penis.
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#285781 - 07/11/08 11:20 PM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: glamazon]
jenny_w Offline


Registered: 01/03/06
Loc: Oregon
So my pussy is supposed to work??

LOL
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#285783 - 07/12/08 12:49 AM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: Charlene_Leona]
Dyssonance Offline


Registered: 10/12/06
Loc: Arizona
Originally Posted By: PhotoGurl
My big gripe about his pregnancy is, He did not give up his reproductive rights to be deemed a man. For me to legally be given a change of gender, I have to be sterilized with at least an orchi & live full time to be re-gendered. But at the same time I have recently be told by some trans-men that it is so expensive for those procedures they have to keep those organ's. So I can understand why it was done but it still does bother me a little because there were jerks in the media talking about trying to make it illegal for a trans person to marry just because of the publicity seeking couple. So for setting us back in the public eye that causes me to be concerned.


I wasn't going to go here any further, but I can't help myself.

I suspect I will lose it sooner or later and be moderated.

I absolutely agree that there is reason to be concerned for the negative impact of this story. The last two years, in case anyone failed to notice, we have had a tremendous upsurge in terms of exposure, and, with that exposure, has come a concomitant increase in risk.

Some people are risk averse.

I also strongly feel the reasons he did this were not all that noble -- I know other men who have given birth, and they did not write essay's in the Advocate (the start of it all).

But it is news. Not so much the fact he gave birth. The fact that he *can* and the fact that he did make it public. That is news.

I have not given up my reproductive rights -- although at this point, its still unknown if I'll ever produce sperm again.

And I am legally female on all my documents.

The response I got *here* when I celebrated that achievement was not celebratory. That sting *still* sits with me.

Now yes, I was *lucky*, and I did something no one else had ever done -- I asked. I was born and live in a state that isn't horrifically against Ts&IS stuff.

But, there it is. It *is* possible, and others have duplicated it.

So to have a gripe is ok -- it *does* suck (I have a gripe with the girls that have been raised as such from a young age and its understood to simply happen by their families).

But we cannot fault them for it. That's little more than thinly veiled jealousy.

Without risk, though, there can be no change. I asked. It was a risk.

He told his story. It is a risk. There may be bad things that happen, there may be good things that happen.

But people are talking about us. And for every one that says stupid crap, there is one saying smart stuff.

I'm willing to take that risk, becuase to talk about it means you have to be aware of it, and that means people will be more aware of us.

we need that.
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#285784 - 07/12/08 12:50 AM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: jenny_w]
Dyssonance Offline


Registered: 10/12/06
Loc: Arizona
Originally Posted By: jenny_w
So my pussy is supposed to work??

LOL


well, go have it checked out...
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#285786 - 07/12/08 01:50 AM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: Dyssonance]
Marcella Offline
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Registered: 03/31/03
Loc: Barn
I don't get this debate.

People should be free to do with their bodies as they please. It should be the most basic freedom.

I know several TG and pre-op TS women who, at some point, stopped hormones long enough to make a woman pregnant. So what is good for the goose should be good for the gander.
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#285787 - 07/12/08 02:10 AM Re: 'pregnant man' gives birth [Re: Marcella]
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Registered: 02/21/07
Loc: CHEEEZY, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Marcella
I don't get this debate.

People should be free to do with their bodies as they please. It should be the most basic freedom.

I know several TG and pre-op TS women who, at some point, stopped hormones long enough to make a woman pregnant. So what is good for the goose should be good for the gander.


Really!!!,Who cares what someone does with THEIR body!It's no-one elses buisness!!!! poke
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