GenderLife Forum: The Information Exchange

It is really sad.

Things like that do happen. The only thing, I know to do, is to make oneself a difficult and very expensive target.

Guns kill and in the wrong hands are lethal weapons
they kill u for a bag of chips in croydon
and i can tell ya from experiemce that people threaten to shoot each other or blade each other over a silly dissagreement
i mean like u Just saying No

Giving everyone a gun will just escalate the problem Over here its Total Nonsense to suggest it wouldn't

America may allow gun law but No way will europe ...and rightly so in my opinion


as these type of crimes will get worse and more frequent and make it an even more lawless society to live in

I'm more concerned with the likelihood of getting killed, than the liklihood of getting killed with a gun. While it's true that the UK has stricter gun control than the US and a lower murder rate per capita, there is evidence that one is not a reliable predictor of the other. For example, Mexico has gun control laws that are much more strict than those in the US, but also a much higher murder rate per capita. Meanwhile, Norway has one of the highest rates of gun ownership in the world, and a much lower murder rate than the UK. I think the unavailability of a gun merely means the murder will be performed with another instrument, such as a knife, pipe wrench, automobile, etc.

In view of the above, I am in favor of handguns being made available to trustworthy citizens. In particular, I think women need to own handguns, as handguns are the only tool by which the average women can gain physical threat parity with the average man.

Unfortunately, most women do not carry handguns because of the fear that one of their young children will find it and play with it. As a result, I think commercial availability of child safe handguns is a priority. Accordingly, I am extremely disappointed with the stance of the NRA and the gun manufacturers in opposition to placing such safety mechanisms on firearms.

It has been proven that the technology to make handguns child safe has been available for years. But gun manufacturers are afraid that demonstrating its feasability by making such a product will result in passage of legislation requiring placement of those measures on ALL handguns. The bottom line is that the child safe handgun is not available, so women don't buy handguns, so only men own handguns, so women feel threatened by men with handguns, so women advocate for gun control, so gun manufacturers do not view women as potential allies and a huge untapped market, so gun manufacturers do not make the child safe handgun. It's ironic.

Glinda ? that is the biggest load of rubbish i have ever read ...sorry to say hon

it is like giving a rope to ted bundy and saying here u go mate is this what you are looking for

or giving Gary glitter a couple of kids to play with

seriously though
the kids over here are terrible they shoot you for looking at them funny

Natalie, that's one of the least persuasive counter arguments I've ever read.

Edit: See? I can edit my post too. When I responded, your post said only:



The rest is all revisionist history. Including how you responded to my post after editing your original post, as if nothing had happened.

BTW, rope is commercially available. And making handguns commercially available is not at all like making children commercially available.

honest and to the point though isnt it ? its all that was needed to be said without being nasty


And yeah i edited my post coz it said shit instead of rubbish

Your ideals in america are not the same in europe please understand that and respect that
as we have common sense when it comes to Firearms
and common sense says dont hand the tools of the trade to killers which of course Guns are

Tell me different as i would love to hear it

I'm not against guns. As you stated, plenty in Norway. Thing is in my country, murder rate used to be measured in single figures for a year..but since the huge influx of muslim and eatern european immigrants..murder rate has shot thru the roof. The truth behind that is poverty. There is poverty in Norway among the immigrants that simply wasn't there before. Iceland was once excluded from all figures as they went ten years without a single murder. If ya wanna cut down murders..cut poverty.

In defence of USA and it's gun laws. Well, I can only go by my time here, but I can say there is FAR less random violence and it feels MUCH safer to walk the streets than UK. While UK might not have guns..it is quite brutal and yes, knives and all that..but quite common is kicked to death. The reason I feel US is more polite and more safe on the whole is that..you don't know who could be carrying a gun. Is some toughnut idiot from UK gona pick on someone when they might have a gun. In effect..the right to carry a gun and the laws to use them in self defence...well it frightens a lot of people..thus, making US streets much safer.

Point of fact is there is terrible violence on UK streets..its a free for all, mainly because of the pub culture. In US, much more respect and safer. Problem ain't the guns, its the to my mind seemingly lax laws about using them. There is no laws of tresspassing in Norway for example and for self defence the law of 'reasonable force'..shooting someone coming onto your land is not an option. Also another factor is we dont have 250 movies a year about our country glorifying gun behaviour and drugs.

So ... are you, like ... blaming it on the jews?

I agree that the gun lobbyists are doing no favors for the average citizens here. They refuse to agree to even the most sensible ideas like banning assault weapons and child proof gun locks. Probably due to their fear of 'slippery slope' as Glinda mentioned. Same mentality in many areas of society hinder making things better for folks.

Heh, damn crypto-judaism!

Err not really. I blame all them Al pacino chainsaw people up in the bathtub movies. Come on punk..make my day!