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#291855 - 08/27/08 05:46 AM
Re: Interesting New Trans-Statistics
[Re: Charlene_Leona]
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Supreme Oracle
Registered: 01/14/04
Loc: England
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As a former member of the military who was discharged for a Personality Disorder, I can totally relate to the needs of all veterans who need these services from the VA. I have been denied services from the VA for GID as well as the medical community. As a matter of fact I just got bared from my medical clinic in a public housing building because of my Gender Issues. Guess fracking what I'M DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, I'm not afraid of being out as a transwoman. I'm proud of who and what I am, if your not go hide in stealth and to hell with you. We have a responsibility to make the world a better place for the next generation. I have even volunteered my time at our new GLBT Community Center that has opened in my neighborhood. If your not going to help GET LOST, but if you want a better life for those of us who need it get up to bat and let's do something about it. Shooting down groups that take an effort to research us will do us no good we should be putting out all effort to make this research pay off. So what if someone gets ahead doing so, THAT'S WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT!!!! wow big words guess what Im so fuckin offended by how you reacted and how you have abused me here for being me and making my choice some of us live in stealth GUESS WHAT thats what i want GUESS WHAT ? i dont care about activism Guess WHAT ? i couldnt give a damn about what being an american as im English ...but i have an idea Guess what ? you are pre op im post i live as a woman i transitioned to fit in as a woman not be known as a trasssexual Live your life how you see fit But dont Fuckin abuse mine as ive talked the talk and walked the walk and made many sacrifices along the way in order to be me You aint even began yet so dont you go shouting from the rooftops at me as you aint got a clue what its like yet ...and dont you dare say you do If you wanna be an active transsexual fine but thats not my bag so dont criticize me or abuse me for not doing so you have a lot to learn
Edited by Natalie (08/27/08 05:49 AM)
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#291874 - 08/27/08 09:59 AM
Re: Interesting New Trans-Statistics
[Re: Charlene_Leona]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 08/14/07
Loc: Eastern Washington state, U.S....
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...Guess fracking what I'M DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, I'm not afraid of being out as a transwoman. I'm proud of who and what I am, if your not go hide in stealth and to hell with you. We have a responsibility to make the world a better place for the next generation. I have even volunteered my time at our new GLBT Community Center that has opened in my neighborhood. If your not going to help GET LOST, but if you want a better life for those of us who need it get up to bat and let's do something about it. Shooting down groups that take an effort to research us will do us no good we should be putting out all effort to make this research pay off... wow big words guess what Im so fuckin offended by how you reacted and how you have abused me here for being me and making my choice some of us live in stealth GUESS WHAT thats what i want GUESS WHAT ? i dont care about activism Guess WHAT ? i couldnt give a damn about what being an american as im English ...but i have an idea Guess what ? you are pre op im post i live as a woman i transitioned to fit in as a woman not be known as a trasssexual Live your life how you see fit But dont Fuckin abuse mine as ive talked the talk and walked the walk and made many sacrifices along the way in order to be me You aint even began yet so dont you go shouting from the rooftops at me as you aint got a clue what its like yet ...and dont you dare say you do If you wanna be an active transsexual fine but thats not my bag so dont criticize me or abuse me for not doing so you have a lot to learn PhotoGurl, I admire your activism. I think the fight for trans-rights is important. I wish more people would get involved. Let me ask you one question. What do you stand to lose by being an activist? Will you lose your job, your family, your home, or anything most people hold dear? It’s no secret that right now, I’m fighting to keep those things intact. I don’t know if I can keep even part of my family, and it seems I’ve already lost a big chunk of it. When I get a more stable job, one in Washington that will be protected by anti-discrimination law, I will become more active and vocal. People have said here that everyone has a price, and some have said they can never be bought. I faced that choice yesterday. Someone in my office saw something small on my desk and said, “I see you are a Christian.” I am, and we talked about church for a bit. Then she said, “The reason I brought it up is I was thinking about something I read today. I won’t ever by my cards from Hallmark anymore, because they just came out with a line of cards for (She used airquotes here) ‘gay marriage’. I can’t believe they would support that kind of sin.” I support gay marriage. I don’t think two people who are committed to a monogamous relationship and want to formalize by marrying are committing a sin. I don’t condemn people for how they are born, and fight against that type of bigotry all the time. My dilemma yesterday was to speak my mind, like I usually do, and tell this woman I can’t work with someone who has that type of attitude, or to keep my mouth shut for the money, a single transaction that would pay me a little more than what I generally make in two months of work. I don’t judge people who live in stealth. There is one reason I don’t. They are in a place I haven’t gotten to yet. Their perspective is different than mine. If I’m fortunate enough to be accepted as simply a woman, not a woman with a past she wants to avoid, or a woman that everyone knows “used to be a man” I don’t know if I’ll be able to choose activism over just simply living my life. And that is if activism leaves me with nothing at risk. If you have nothing, or if you have security, activism doesn’t have much of a personal cost. If you have your livelihood, or your life, on the line, stealth might be the only option. For those women who are post-op and could blend in and live stealth if they choose but put everything on the line to fight for our rights, I have the deepest respect. For those who have security, but still out themselves to fight for us, I give my thanks. Do I wish people like Natalie, who seems to have that type of security, would do more? Certainly, but I have absolutely no right to judge her decision, until I’ve had to face the same decision myself. I said at the beginning of my post I admire your activism, but I’m appalled by how judgmental your post was. Until you’ve faced the same choice, you haven’t earned the right to call someone out like that. Hope
Edited by Hope_WA (08/27/08 12:52 PM) Edit Reason: typo
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His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" Jesus answered, "Neither he nor his parents sinned; it is so that the works of God might be made visible through him. " John 9:2-3
Mahatma Ghandi, though a devout Hindu, was widely known to admire Jesus; Ghandi often quoted from the Sermon on the Mount, in fact. Once when the missionary E. Stanley Jones met with Ghandi he asked him, "Mr. Ghandi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?" Ghandi replied, "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ."
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#291889 - 08/27/08 12:52 PM
Re: Interesting New Trans-Statistics
[Re: Hope_WA]
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Frequent Flyer
Registered: 02/22/07
Loc: St. Louis Mo. 63108
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Actually Hope I have nothing to lose but my life because of my activism, my fiancee who is also an activist won't leave me because of it. I also have nothing else to lose I have no home, no job but for my own work as an artist & photographer. I've already given up on my family although my mom is finally coming around to my my new life.
I have been discriminated against throughout my life first by a Black teacher who beat me and other students because we were white in the 2nd grade, picked on and bullied because of my red hair and Irish decent in school and walked on and thrown out of a place to stay by a Chinese boss because of being white as well. I've had the Military, VA, Doctor's , Nurse's and potential employers refuse me because of my gender issue's. I've been discriminated on because of my disability as well, that's why I'm so vehement about this. I live in America and I'm fucking fed up with it all. Now I'm having to postpone my SRS because of my heart condition, so the only real thing I have to lose now is my life.
I feel that we were placed hear in this life to make it a better place for all people and when those people complain and bitch yet do nothing to fix those problems, that's when I start to develop an attitude.
I don't truly disdain those who can live in stealth and yes if I could I would also but my life has dealt me a set of cards that makes it virtually impossible to do so. So instead of giving up and or bitching about it I'm doing something to make the world a better place for all human's not just Transsexuals. We don't have a right to judge and I'm truly sorry that I did. I was just trying to get those people to think about what there lack of action does to the rest of us and our cause, Nothing!!!!
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