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#292069 - 08/29/08 02:03 AM I came out today.
TheLoneWolf Offline
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Registered: 03/25/06
Loc: Indiana
Today, yesterday now, I came out to my girlfriend.
This, I have to say, went very well. Not only was she not repulsed or turned away by it, she is supportive of it, will stay with me through and after transition, and she wishes I would have came out sooner. She even went to mention how we are now gay. (And we also had a laugh when a future topic thing for the Maury show asked "Does your child think they were born the wrong gender." played just moments after our talk.)
She may have her issues, and bouts of anger, but I have grown to love her dearly, and her support will help alot.
Right now, I feel so blessed and lucky to have a lover who will be there for me.
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#292072 - 08/29/08 02:17 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: TheLoneWolf]
TheLoneWolf Offline
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Actually, after my nerves calmed down, and I wasn't in a state of stress overload, I had a kind of high today that was unlike anything else. For the first time in a very long time, it truely felt great to be alive.
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The more the light shines through me,
I pretend to close my eyes.
The more the dark consumes me,
I prentend I burning..
Burning bright.

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#292073 - 08/29/08 02:59 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: TheLoneWolf]
EmmaMarie Offline
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Registered: 08/03/05
Loc: New Zealand
Congratulations, I hope it all works out well for you. laugh

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#292078 - 08/29/08 05:41 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: TheLoneWolf]
Deena Offline
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Registered: 05/11/06
Originally Posted By: TheLoneWolf
Actually, after my nerves calmed down, and I wasn't in a state of stress overload, I had a kind of high today that was unlike anything else. For the first time in a very long time, it truely felt great to be alive.

Hmmmm. So would you say that honesty is really the best policy? I believe it is. My advice to anyone debating issues of disclosure is to go ahead and let your S.O. know because whether or not he/she chooses to be supportive or tosses you at least you no longer fear the unknown. I do not, however condemn those who shy from it because there are always complications and the unknown may at times seem best left that way. dontoveruseme

Best wishes to both.
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#292084 - 08/29/08 08:30 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: Deena]
Hope_WA Offline
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Originally Posted By: Deena
Hmmmm. So would you say that honesty is really the best policy? I believe it is. My advice to anyone debating issues of disclosure is to go ahead and let your S.O. know because whether or not he/she chooses to be supportive or tosses you at least you no longer fear the unknown.


I agree with Deena on this 100%. You (generic) can't start to move forward, to deal with all the issues and challenges ahead, if you aren't open and honest with the people you love.
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His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
Jesus answered, "Neither he nor his parents sinned; it is so that the works of God might be made visible through him. "
John 9:2-3

Mahatma Ghandi, though a devout Hindu, was widely known to admire Jesus; Ghandi often quoted from the Sermon on the Mount, in fact. Once when the missionary E. Stanley Jones met with Ghandi he asked him, "Mr. Ghandi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?"
Ghandi replied, "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ."

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#292094 - 08/29/08 09:57 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: TheLoneWolf]
Kristina Roivas Offline
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Registered: 09/05/07
Loc: Vancouver Canada
Sometimes it is good to take chance and tell important people such as spouses and family/children. Even employers.

They may be liberal,understanding,supportive. And stick by you.

Good for you. Thats great news.
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#292095 - 08/29/08 10:05 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: Kristina Roivas]
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Registered: 02/06/07
Loc: Saint John NB Canada
Hey great news !! Excellent step forward!
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#292117 - 08/29/08 12:03 PM Re: I came out today. [Re: TheLoneWolf]
LaniLee Offline

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Registered: 01/27/04
Loc: Eugene, Oregon
I'm so glad things went well for you. Congratulations on moving forward. Good luck in the future as well.
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#292161 - 08/29/08 05:13 PM Re: I came out today. [Re: TheLoneWolf]
Julia_Colorado Offline
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Registered: 08/21/08
Excellent! Here's to both of you! happycheer


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#292194 - 08/29/08 08:52 PM Re: I came out today. [Re: Julia_Colorado]
TheLoneWolf Offline
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It's so cool and I'm so happy. She has even encouraged me to cross-dress to get used to it.
My girlfriend even told her mom (which I do not blame her for doing) to talk it over with her, since it did come as a slight shock to her. My girlfriends mom informed her that when she was my girlfriends age, she dated a transwoman. Her dad ran him off though.
God it's so nice though that I can comfortable express femininity at home. My girlfriend is even getting me a pair of heels that will actually fit me. I doubt my knees will take well to them though. Not too mention it also feels great to have it seem like a boulder was taken off my shoulders.
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The more the light shines through me,
I pretend to close my eyes.
The more the dark consumes me,
I prentend I burning..
Burning bright.

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#292288 - 08/30/08 03:08 PM Re: I came out today. [Re: TheLoneWolf]
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Registered: 01/03/06
Loc: Oregon
Yea!
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#292354 - 08/31/08 03:27 PM Re: I came out today. [Re: jenny_w]
Megan (VA) Offline
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Registered: 03/17/06
I am very happy for you! Not to sound trite but in my opinion coming out is one of the hardest parts of transition because it is often one of the first steps we take that others will know about. Best of luck to the both of you!

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#292361 - 08/31/08 04:54 PM Re: I came out today. [Re: TheLoneWolf]
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Registered: 02/22/07
Loc: St. Louis Mo. 63108
Great news for you I'm so happy for you and your girlfriend. I too know what it's like to have a supportive boyfriend, we both love the world out of each other beyond belief. Just keep being honest with each other and you will remain happy together.
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#292364 - 08/31/08 05:08 PM Re: I came out today. [Re: TheLoneWolf]
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Loc: SW Michigan
This is a giant leap for your womanhood, Congratulations happycheer are in order. But be there for her as she is for you. colorhearts
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#292400 - 09/01/08 09:29 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: Tessa]
Ariana Offline
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Registered: 07/12/08
Loc: Canada
Well done!

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#292553 - 09/03/08 01:58 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: Ariana]
Samantha D Offline
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Registered: 09/02/08
I hate to rain on your picknick but the coming out to your significant other has only just started.

Usually when you come out to someone who is close to you they will enter a kind of honeymoon period where they are supportive. The problem is that even though they might have been super-supportive they can whip around to be very unsupportive.

This happened both with my mother and with my best friend. Both of them were very supportive when I first came out to them. After that, though, my mother became very hostile towards the whole thing after a couple months and my best friend and I didn't talk for a year.

I'm not trying to ruin your day or anything or telling you that she's automatically going to turn against you. What I'm trying to do is to caution you about being overconfident at this time. You have a lot left to work on in your relationship and you absolutely can not take anything for granted. Even if she says she's all gung-ho I strongly urge you to put on the breaks and take it slow until she's settled down with the idea.

If you really care about this relationship then you have to remember to work *with* your significant other rather than at your own pace. Believe me, I know how it feels to want to race ahead when you first come out but the fact of the matter is that chances are you significant other isn't ready to lunge ahead. Don't make the same mistakes that I made and take your time.

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#293183 - 09/07/08 10:23 PM Re: I came out today. [Re: Samantha D]
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Registered: 07/18/05
Loc: New York City
Hi LoneWolf. I am soooo happy for you. This is a long time coming for you. And you so totally deserve it.

Don't be put off by anyones doubt in the support system you have. Let your own intuition be your guide.

You've just taken a step toward being the real you!

Congratulations!!!


Edited by DreamGirl (09/08/08 03:08 AM)
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#293184 - 09/07/08 10:42 PM Re: I came out today. [Re: DreamGirl]
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Registered: 02/27/05
Loc: Cincinnati, OH
Way to go girlfriend! I remember the day I started coming out... I was terrified! Thankfully, everyone who was supportive STAYED that was, that was (hard to believe) FIVE years ago. Now that old life is so far behind me I couldn't go back even if I wanted to, which I don't!
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#293189 - 09/08/08 12:40 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: Samanthaq]
Autumn_Sandeen Offline
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Registered: 10/28/06
Loc: San Diego, CA
I tend to think SamanthaD has a bit of a point, although I wouldn't say it like she did.

TheLoneWolf, when I came out to my Mom, the first thing she did was act a bit shocked, but she was supportive. A couple of months later, she became unsupportive, and compared my transition to the "sin" of having a child out of wedlock. Then, she became tolerant of my transition, neither supportive or unsupportive, but making sure I was included in family gatherings. In the past six months, she started using female pronouns to describe me.

These changes in my relationship with my Mom have been developing over five-and-a-half years. I look at it this way: I had a lifetime to get used to the idea that my sex and gender didn't match at birth, and she got only three months notice that I was going to transition. She's now had five-and-a-half years to get used to me being Autumn.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm concerned that you're mentioning you felt "high" when your SO gave a supportive response. My guess is that a day is coming when she asks you "Are you sure you want to do this?", or she refers to you with male pronouns a few times when you are presenting as female -- or some other such development. Will that be a reason for as much as an emotional low as her support was a reason for your emotional high?

I guess my comment is that I'd recommend a longer view perspective than the current moment to judge how your SO's and your relationship is going. Expect rough patches in your relationship with her (as well as with friends and family) will occur due to your transition. Whatever good or bad days you may have ahead, none of the days are going to be the "end of the world." Enjoy the highs, but expect some lows. Your transition isn't yours alone: Everyone who maintains a relationship with you -- SO, family member, or friend -- is in a sense transitioning with you.

Even with those who accept and embrace your transition may take awhile to fully absorb your transition as a permanent thing. And, they may go through some of their own transitioning process -- much as my Mom did -- with their feelings about your transition changing from day to day, or week to week, etc., for quite awhile.

So I guess my basic comment is this: If your SO's feelings seem to change in a few days -- and then change again in a few days again, and then again, and then again... -- well, don't sweat it too much. Even though she may end up being as supportive as she was in your conversation broaching the subject of transition, she may waiver a bit in her support before sticking to that full support. But even if she were to become fully unsupportive -- don't get too low...honest to goodness, the world won't end.

And, an added comment is that if you have a therapist involved in your transition, you might want to bring your SO in for at least one of your therapy sessions. Getting an outside look at your relationsip to possibly help your relationship from degrading wouldn't be a bad thing either. Heck, even getting a mutual friend you both respect involved in discussing relationsip issues in the same room as you both might not be a bad idea either.
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#293190 - 09/08/08 01:13 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: Autumn_Sandeen]
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Registered: 09/02/08
TheLoneWolf,

What Autumn and I are trying to tell you is that your relationship will change a lot and it might not be in the positive direction. You need to be ready for it to change.

Right now you're looking at your relationship from the perspective of someone who has just come out to their lover. You can make this work out for the best, but to do that you need to see the relationship from her eyes.

So take a few steps back and try to see both perspectives. Ask one of her friends for help in getting to know what she's going through. Even better, seek couple's counseling if you can afford it. You need to start taking steps to preserve your relationship before things start going south.

Please, put your enthusiasm to become yourself to the side for a moment and try to work at her pace for a little while. It's a big change for her and right now you're pushing her too far, too fast.

We actually do care about you, I don't want to see you getting hurt.

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#293219 - 09/08/08 09:12 AM Re: I came out today. [Re: Samantha D]
Hope_WA Offline
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Registered: 08/14/07
Loc: Eastern Washington state, U.S....
There is a tendency within the forum for people to think only their experience is valid, and only the people that agree with them make any sense.

I have heard of a few, but very few, women who have transitioned and there were no tears except tears of joy. I have never met anyone with that experience yet.

There are women who transition, suffer through tears and pain, and come out the other side with the support of the people they’ve loved all their lives, including spouses. These types of stories are rare as well, but they happen.

It appears that most women go through hell at some point, lose everyone they love, and the fortunate ones get some, or even most of those people back in their lives. This has been my experience thus far. I told my s.o. I was TS almost 10 years ago. She has only recently come to grips with that fact, and I’ve cried more in the last few months than in the rest of my life combined. We love each other deeply, but both of us doubt the relationship will survive, even though we are doing everything we can to make it work. I told my mom about 5 years ago. She told me how much she loved me and how she will always support me. She and I are no longer speaking, because she can’t deal with my transition. In both cases, what started off well went to crap.

I really do hope that your supporters stay supportive. It can happen and isn’t unheard of. I do think it is wise to listen to some of the people who have been hurt too. I’m an optimist, but the only way to survive and not become cynical and jaded and lose that optimism is to hope and pray for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." Henry David Thoreau

His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
Jesus answered, "Neither he nor his parents sinned; it is so that the works of God might be made visible through him. "
John 9:2-3

Mahatma Ghandi, though a devout Hindu, was widely known to admire Jesus; Ghandi often quoted from the Sermon on the Mount, in fact. Once when the missionary E. Stanley Jones met with Ghandi he asked him, "Mr. Ghandi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?"
Ghandi replied, "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ."

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