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#309220 - 03/17/09 03:42 PM
Re: Canadian rapist demands sex change
[Re: Deena]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 12/16/08
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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If this person does have GID, wouldn't one consider withholding 'medically necessary' treatment while someone is incarcerated to be 'Cruel and Unusual punishment?'
Would it be ok to withhold HIV drugs from a gay inmate because they could be seen as giving gay men a bad name?
Would withholding GID treatment from the inmate imply that such treatment is not medically necessary, and how would that affect us.
No. When your liberty is taken from you the government assumes a lot of obligations according to our legal systems. Among those are a person's well being and that includes medical care. However that does not mean if a person has rotten teeth the state has to provide dental implants (as an example). It does mean that medical care must be provided for treatable lie threatening conditions. However if the threat is on of suicide then the treatment is isolation and 24 hour observance. In the arena of GID or alleged GID the judicial decisions are just now being written and it will be quite a few years before the courts work their way to clearly defined rules. Typically that will lag behind what the medical community applies as standards in general society. One important fact to remember is that incarceration expenses are borne by the taxpayers. Inmates with incurable conditions are often released by the system to live out their last few years or to avoid extremely high costs. In the case of murder, however, release for medical conditions is extremely rare. In answer to one of your questions nothing decided in an incarceration situation will affect us. Jail decisions follow rather than lead the justice system. Its Intresting you should mention this, I have a friend, we met through a group, and a personals ad. She is currently locked up in a rural county jail; north of SF, between SF and the Capitol (salano County). we have quite an age gap, I found out she lied to me about her legal matters, and it was a domestic split up gone bad. The Point is She is Not getting her HRT, they booked her under her old infortmation, plus she is a regestered sex offender (she never confided in me the story) I check out people I associte with. and her lock up is under various statuites, she missed her resceduled court date Not intentionaly, she lost her job, becuase shes in jail no more unemployment for her, i belive the guards may not be treating her well. I suspect eventully she might be put in General Population, and fear for her safety. I saught help from a lobbim PAC here in SF. I did send legal help to try to get her out or moved to a better place, where they Will give her her HRT. but I feel hurt being lied to. rELATED TO THIS MEDIA STORY: I suppose I think this person should get it, poetic justice, but this person HARMS our community, and is a disgrace. I
Edited by Leigh McInnis Gae (03/17/09 03:43 PM)
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#309269 - 03/18/09 01:43 PM
Re: Canadian rapist demands sex change
[Re: Sister Pixel]
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Ultimate Goddess
Registered: 02/21/07
Loc: Spaces untraveled spaces...
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That's probably true, but I would imagine it's harder to rape women without a penis. Perhaps molestation or physical abuse at worst.
If it spares a woman from being raped, that's fine by me. It"s true.I've been around long enough to be able to confirm it.Unless someone has a lobotomy,or has their brain zapped with an excessive amount of electroshock therapy,the core underlying person remains intact and unchanged.Once someone is "programmed" a certain way,it never changes.A good example is repairative therapy for someone who is gay or ts.With enough "brainwashing" treatment,someone can cover it up/be in denial for a while,but it"ll come back again.I tried over the years to cover up/ignore/be in denial about myself being ts...It didn"t work.It eventually became so overwhelming,I just said fuck it!That"s it!I don"t care what happens to me after I come out!.So I did,and life is good now.The one thing that hasn"t changed though,is the basic underlying person that I"ve been all my life...
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Sorry,but you have no choice...keep moving along please...
The living past...here and gone...
Self preservation...the weak link between ideas and action.
At times when the bar is set too high...it's sometimes best to just go under it instead.
To die in the arms of a loved one...peaceful bliss.
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