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#317369 - 06/27/09 07:08 AM Re: G.I.D. O-U-T ! [Re: Heli]
jasmina Offline


Registered: 06/08/09
Loc: Hamm/Germany
Originally Posted By: Heli
After the GID is treated the diagnosis ceases to exist.


My Diagnoses are condition post genital surgery (Z 98.8) and hormonal disorder (F 34.9).
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#317389 - 06/27/09 02:00 PM Re: Bipartisan political win [Re: Roxanne]
hollyb Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 05/16/03
Loc: Northern California
Originally Posted By: Roxanne
... Honestly, I don't think a medical professional could make a determination of mental illness or rule it out in the 10-15 minutes they have to see you, which is the standard in the US medical system at least. They pretty much go with what you tell them.

If only it were so!

If only transsexualism were not treated as an exception, and thus transwomen were prescribed estrogen by their GPs instead of being referred to have their minds subjected to iatrogenesis.
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Holly - who believes that it may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent, moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.... (C.S.Lewis - Irish author 1898-1963)

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#317648 - 07/03/09 08:49 AM Re: G.I.D. O-U-T ! [Re: jasmina]
Deena Online   cloud9

Supreme Oracle

Registered: 05/11/06
Originally Posted By: jasmina
Originally Posted By: Heli
After the GID is treated the diagnosis ceases to exist.


My Diagnoses are condition post genital surgery (Z 98.8) and hormonal disorder (F 34.9).

I never had a diagnosis. If I tried to get one I probably wouldn't still be running around outside an asylum but it wouln't be for gender issues - lol.
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#317756 - 07/06/09 04:03 AM Re: Bipartisan political win [Re: hollyb]
Ylva Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 10/14/05
Loc: Europa
Originally Posted By: hollyb

If only transsexualism were not treated as an exception, and thus transwomen were prescribed estrogen by their GPs instead of being referred to have their minds subjected to iatrogenesis.


Well, that's the way it kinda is in America, so it seemed to me. Any mind being subjected to "whatever that word above means" seems to be on a voluntary basis.

As Holly is originally from England, she still has the scars of torturous abuse at the hands of the maniacs. I empathise and sympathise...and I totally get it. So, I don't yawn.
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#317819 - 07/07/09 06:50 AM Re: Bipartisan political win [Re: Ylva]
Deena Online   cloud9

Supreme Oracle

Registered: 05/11/06
Originally Posted By: Ylva
Originally Posted By: hollyb

If only transsexualism were not treated as an exception, and thus transwomen were prescribed estrogen by their GPs instead of being referred to have their minds subjected to iatrogenesis.


Well, that's the way it kinda is in America, so it seemed to me. Any mind being subjected to "whatever that word above means" seems to be on a voluntary basis.

That's due to our wonderful cloaking abilities. The government is working feverishly on counter measures.
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#319554 - 08/10/09 12:48 AM Re: G.I.D. O-U-T ! [Re: Vanna1]
Michelle15 Offline
New Girl

Registered: 08/07/09
Loc: California
It should not make any difference as far as insurance coverage is concerned--in a perfect world. The problem many have with removing it is because of the question of coverage. However, the point should not be to get coverage by being diagnosed with a "mental illness," but to get coverage as would anyone else with a medical difficulty, whether it is cancer or the flu.

Michelle

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#319601 - 08/11/09 09:48 PM Re: G.I.D. O-U-T ! [Re: Michelle15]
Kennedy Offline
New Girl

Registered: 08/10/08
I need a diagnosis of GID in order to acquire prescription and monitoring for the HRT. If GID were out of the DSM, then the SOC would have to be altered, or a different diagnosis would need to exist to justify the distribution of the hormones.

So, I say, leave it in. There is a stigma, we have dealt with it (for better and worse) and will continue to do so. The real test of acceptance is with my wife and children and from those who allow me to work for them so that I can pay my own way in life.

-Kennedy.

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#319602 - 08/11/09 10:37 PM Re: G.I.D. O-U-T ! [Re: Kennedy]
mixie Offline
Frequent Flyer

Registered: 01/07/09
The diagnosis people need to obtain treatment is something very different from the DSM GID diagnosis, which does not, and has not, helped people obtain physical medical treatment, or insurance company acceptance of physical medical treatments for the condition from which you suffer.

What needs to exist is a physical condition diagnosis in the section of the ICD-9 medical diagnostic code book for birth anomalies.

You are not mentally ill, and neither you, nor anyone else with the misconception that GID should stay in the DSM, or needs to be so classified by the medical professional, or worse, by right wing politicians who misuse the DSM GID diagnosis as a way to declare our entire population nuts.

The well informed position to take on this is to support and lobby for a physical, congenital, medical condition diagnostic code within the ICD-9 medical diagnostic code book, classified along with other physical conditions like Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome and Hermaphroditic/Intersex conditions in the ICD-9, which would better afford patients acceptance for physical medical treatments for a physical condition which is not a mental illness and does not belong in the DSM.

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#319723 - 08/14/09 06:22 PM Re: G.I.D. O-U-T ! [Re: hollyb]
Kristina Roivas Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/05/07
Loc: In The United States of Americ...
Well that could be good news. I don't know if they will actually take it out of the DSM 5. But who knows it could happen?
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#321864 - 09/19/09 04:33 PM Re: G.I.D. O-U-T ! [Re: Kristina Roivas]
Lorin42 Offline

Dangerous Lunatic

Registered: 08/24/09
Loc: Central Massachusetts
I suspect that the insurance companies will do their best to remove GID from the DSM V. That is because come 2010 any company with over 50 employees has to cover mental conditions as well as physical conditions or drop coverage altogether.

This is the USA. If you want to know why something is occurring, follow the money.
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