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#326672 - 01/09/10 10:09 AM Electro hair removal time frame!
nikkipage2112 Offline
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Registered: 10/24/09
Loc: Cleveland , Ohio
Hi Girls!

First I'm so way excited to announce that I started hrt Thurday! YAY! Spiro and estriodal patches! Way syked!

I have been doing laser on my face; and I'll be honest I've not really seen anything happen! I still need to shave, there is no reduction, etc, etc, etc, .... I had 6 (maybe 7) session done.
I want to bin the laser treatments and start electro! It just seems to be more proven. I have read absolute horror stories of how long it took for different individuals to clear their face.

I would like to ask you to post your experiences on electro.

Thanks much!
Nikki


Edited by nikkipage2112 (01/10/10 02:23 AM)
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#326693 - 01/09/10 12:29 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: nikkipage2112]
JenL Offline
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Registered: 03/01/08
Loc: North Carolina
Hi Nikki,

I started electrolysis back in the early 90's having sessions that lasted several hours several times per week. Today, I still have to go in for a treatment every month or so to keep the fuzzy white hairs under control. I suspect I'll be doing it till the day I die.

Jen
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#327448 - 01/21/10 02:23 AM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: JenL]
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Registered: 07/20/09
Loc: Middle Earth???
Ok thats like disgustingly disappointing I hope thats not the case for everyone? Arrrrrgh I mean there are other girls out there surely who have had electro or laser or whatever and have like no hairs coming back right?

The odd stray one is ok genetic women get that too and pluck the fockerz out but oh my please dont tell me thats the norm youll send me into grave deperession! GIMME LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL>>>????
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#327450 - 01/21/10 02:56 AM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: Beautiful_16]
EmmaMarie Offline
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Registered: 08/03/05
Loc: gone
Honey - my aunties and my mum go in for the occasional zap of the fuzzy whites - it's not like weekly or even monthly sessions - just as needed.

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#327453 - 01/21/10 04:03 AM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: EmmaMarie]
Beautiful_16 Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
Loc: Middle Earth???
ahhh k.... just reading that Jen had been at it since the 90's kinda nearly knocked me off my chair. Am I naieve to think and hope that itleast 98% of the hair will be gone one day? Seriously Im really like REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY looking forward to that day one day I hope I'll get there. I can't imagine having to live the rest of my life with this freakin problem still current. A touchup cause I may have got a few grey hairs when Im older is ok but if Im still dropping money into a bottomless pit a decade or so later noooooooo! please say it aint so frown That'd break my heart
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#327454 - 01/21/10 04:37 AM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: Beautiful_16]
EmmaMarie Offline
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Registered: 08/03/05
Loc: gone
Personally I wish they'd just fuck right off - but yeah - there's a time frame - after that it's just maintenance. It's not endless.

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#327455 - 01/21/10 06:06 AM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: EmmaMarie]
qRachelp Offline
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Registered: 12/02/09
Loc: Little Rock
I've had two facial hair laser sessions thus far, and I "think" I notice a difference. My laserologist(?) swears up and down that I'll only need 5-10 treatments in all, once every 5 weeks, to get all the dark hairs, but then I'll have to do electrolysis for the relatively few white/gray hairs because the actual laser doesn't register those.

I'm also starting the pubic hair laser removal in five weeks, preparing for GCS in about a year's time.
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#327456 - 01/21/10 06:19 AM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: nikkipage2112]
mixie Offline
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Registered: 01/07/09
Try to get galvanic or blend electrolysis and stay away from thermolysis. Thermolysis has a reputation for causing skin damage, because it uses heat, whereas galvanic uses electric current to destroy the hair follicle. When getting galvanic/blend electrolysis, ask the operator to extend the current time on each hair, which is proven more likely to permanently destroy the follicle. When the current is too short, or not long enough, regrowth will likely result. for anyone getting regrowth with electrolysis, blame the operator for poor technique in one form or another. Sometimes operators will work quickly with reduced current, which creates temporary hair removal, which gives the client the temporary impression that great results have been produced, only for the client to discover later that a lot of time and money have been wasted with bad technique that did not actually kill the hair follicles.

check out the site:

www.hairfacts.com

for the best detailed information.

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#327473 - 01/21/10 02:34 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: qRachelp]
Beautiful_16 Offline
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Loc: Middle Earth???
Originally Posted By: qRachelp
I've had two facial hair laser sessions thus far, and I "think" I notice a difference.

I'm also starting the pubic hair laser removal in five weeks, preparing for GCS in about a year's time.


Cool good on you Rachel I've only had one laser session so far. Booked in for my next session next month.

Could you at all shed some light on what the shedding process is like?

Like do you actually notice the hairs falling out of your face?

What actually happens?

What is noticeable exactly?

Im so curious and terribly impaitent in the mirror 10 times a day with my face almost pressed up against the mirror fogging the glass up with my nostrills haha classy.

Also eek your brave but you gotta do what you gotta do huh re genital laser. GOOD LUCK!
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Won't you come over and check up on it, I'm gone let you work up on it
Ladies let em check up on it, watch it while he check up on it
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#327474 - 01/21/10 02:37 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: EmmaMarie]
Beautiful_16 Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
Loc: Middle Earth???
Originally Posted By: EmmaMarie
Personally I wish they'd just fuck right off


laugh You speak fluent kiwi too!!! hehe yeah I wish they'd just fuck the hell off too!

I guess maintenance is better than having nothing at all and having the bastards full on forever huh.
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Won't you come over and check up on it, I'm gone let you work up on it
Ladies let em check up on it, watch it while he check up on it
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#327476 - 01/21/10 02:56 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: mixie]
Melanie Offline
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Registered: 05/08/08
I mostly agree .First the operator needs to explain the 3 stages of the growth cycle of a hair,telegen,anagen,and catagen. The ideal stage to destory the blood supply to the follicle is in the anagen stage of growth.Telegen ,the hair is restarting the growth cycle and for the most part not visible.Catagen, the hair is pulling away from the blood supply and it is the blood supply you are trying destroy. It is nearly impossible for the operator to determine what stage the hair they are treating is at before treating.No electrologist has a 100% kill rate during a session.The most I can hope for is in the 80->90% range. Another factor is how have you been dealing with the hairs , shaving, plucking or chemical.

You are partially right on the use of electrical current in the galvanic process to destroy the blood supply.The electrical current combines with the moisture and salts in your skin to form sodium hydroxide (lye).It is purely a chemical treatment with no "cooking" involved. It is an extremely slow modality and usually requires a muti-needle unit.The only unit I have ever seen was the one I used in the college I atended. You can help the effectiveness of your treatment by drinking plenty of water to hydrate your skin.

Blend is just as it sounds. The combination of galvanic and thermolysis.And it CAN be as damaging as straight thermolysis or flash. Definately stay away from flash electrolysis. It is least effective of the 3 modalities.The only time I use flash is for non-permanent hair removal like 2 clients I have now. They are having me create a heart shape for Valentines in the pubic area <3 for their boyfriend/girlfriend.Damn I like my job.

My sources:
4 months electrolysis college
Electrolysis,Thermolysis,and the Blend by Hinkel&Lind
Structure and Function of the Body by Thibodeau & Patton 11th and 12th editions.
9yrs experience

PS: I take no monies from my TS clients.If you are in the far NW corner of Wa.State and can work around my schedule contact me by Email.My last T client went native in Thialand and I have an opening.Sorry I cannot accept Canadian clients.I am 1.5 hrs. from Seattle.
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#327496 - 01/21/10 05:31 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: Melanie]
Lauren42 Offline

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Registered: 08/24/09
Loc: Central Massachusetts
My facial hair is gray, so laser did nothing. After a year and a half of electro, I can shave every other day if I feel like it (I don't, I hate the feel of hair on my face).

So I figure that another year or so (after surgery) and I'll be in maintenance mode. There could be worse.
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#327499 - 01/21/10 06:24 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: Beautiful_16]
qRachelp Offline
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Registered: 12/02/09
Loc: Little Rock
Originally Posted By: Beautiful_16
Originally Posted By: qRachelp
I've had two facial hair laser sessions thus far, and I "think" I notice a difference.

I'm also starting the pubic hair laser removal in five weeks, preparing for GCS in about a year's time.


Cool good on you Rachel I've only had one laser session so far. Booked in for my next session next month.

Could you at all shed some light on what the shedding process is like?

Like do you actually notice the hairs falling out of your face?

What actually happens?

What is noticeable exactly?

Im so curious and terribly impaitent in the mirror 10 times a day with my face almost pressed up against the mirror fogging the glass up with my nostrills haha classy.

Also eek your brave but you gotta do what you gotta do huh re genital laser. GOOD LUCK!

Heck, since I've only been two times, I really don't know. It kind of seems like the hairs on my chin may be a little less thick, but this may just be wishful thinking.

These effer's who are deceiving consumers into thinking that all the money they're spending is not in vain need to be murdered in front of their very children so the kids don't perpetuate such capitalistic crimes against humanity. Unbridled capitalism so pisses me off; I'm ready to go to class war—death, destruction and everything—over it. You think I'm kiddin'?


Edited by qRachelp (01/21/10 07:35 PM)
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#327502 - 01/21/10 07:33 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: qRachelp]
Lauren42 Offline

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Registered: 08/24/09
Loc: Central Massachusetts
For what it's worth, I had laser on my torso. The experience was that I shaved all over before a session, then just let it go until the next session. After maybe six sessions, it came back in patches. Probably another two or three sessions, there was just a few stray hairs.

There is no apparent hair on my torso at all now, but the electrologist insists that there are still some. Maybe dormant?

Laser is by far the best way to go if your hair is dark and your skin is light. Don't wait until you go gray like I did on my face, now it's all electrolosys.
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#327503 - 01/21/10 07:37 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: Beautiful_16]
Melanie Offline
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Registered: 05/08/08
Originally Posted By: Beautiful_16
Originally Posted By: qRachelp
I've had two facial hair laser sessions thus far, and I "think" I notice a difference.

I'm also starting the pubic hair laser removal in five weeks, preparing for GCS in about a year's time.


Cool good on you Rachel I've only had one laser session so far. Booked in for my next session next month.

Could you at all shed some light on what the shedding process is like?

Like do you actually notice the hairs falling out of your face?

What actually happens?

What is noticeable exactly?

Im so curious and terribly impaitent in the mirror 10 times a day with my face almost pressed up against the mirror fogging the glass up with my nostrills haha classy.

Also eek your brave but you gotta do what you gotta do huh re genital laser. GOOD LUCK!


We shed hairs on a daily basis.Once the hair's blood supply is destroyed by laser, electro or through the normal growth cycle of the hair it becomes a foreign object and the bodies natural course of action is to eject/expel it by slowly moving it to the surface. Most likely you are still shaving and it appears the hairs are untreated until the body works them close enough to the surface to fall out.


Edited by Melanie (01/21/10 07:42 PM)
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#327507 - 01/21/10 07:48 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: Melanie]
qRachelp Offline
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Registered: 12/02/09
Loc: Little Rock
Originally Posted By: Melanie
I mostly agree .First the operator needs to explain the 3 stages of the growth cycle of a hair,telegen,anagen,and catagen. The ideal stage to destory the blood supply to the follicle is in the anagen stage of growth.Telegen ,the hair is restarting the growth cycle and for the most part not visible.Catagen, the hair is pulling away from the blood supply and it is the blood supply you are trying destroy. It is nearly impossible for the operator to determine what stage the hair they are treating is at before treating.No electrologist has a 100% kill rate during a session.The most I can hope for is in the 80->90% range. Another factor is how have you been dealing with the hairs , shaving, plucking or chemical.

You are partially right on the use of electrical current in the galvanic process to destroy the blood supply.The electrical current combines with the moisture and salts in your skin to form sodium hydroxide (lye).It is purely a chemical treatment with no "cooking" involved. It is an extremely slow modality and usually requires a muti-needle unit.The only unit I have ever seen was the one I used in the college I atended. You can help the effectiveness of your treatment by drinking plenty of water to hydrate your skin.

Blend is just as it sounds. The combination of galvanic and thermolysis.And it CAN be as damaging as straight thermolysis or flash. Definately stay away from flash electrolysis. It is least effective of the 3 modalities.The only time I use flash is for non-permanent hair removal like 2 clients I have now. They are having me create a heart shape for Valentines in the pubic area <3 for their boyfriend/girlfriend.Damn I like my job.

My sources:
4 months electrolysis college
Electrolysis,Thermolysis,and the Blend by Hinkel&Lind
Structure and Function of the Body by Thibodeau & Patton 11th and 12th editions.
9yrs experience

PS: I take no monies from my TS clients.If you are in the far NW corner of Wa.State and can work around my schedule contact me by Email.My last T client went native in Thialand and I have an opening.Sorry I cannot accept Canadian clients.I am 1.5 hrs. from Seattle.


Melanie- You, like, rock and stuff. Thank You, Rach


Edited by qRachelp (01/21/10 07:48 PM)
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#327538 - 01/22/10 07:01 AM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: Melanie]
Beautiful_16 Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
Loc: Middle Earth???
Originally Posted By: Melanie
Originally Posted By: Beautiful_16
Originally Posted By: qRachelp
I've had two facial hair laser sessions thus far, and I "think" I notice a difference.

I'm also starting the pubic hair laser removal in five weeks, preparing for GCS in about a year's time.


Cool good on you Rachel I've only had one laser session so far. Booked in for my next session next month.

Could you at all shed some light on what the shedding process is like?

Like do you actually notice the hairs falling out of your face?

What actually happens?

What is noticeable exactly?

Im so curious and terribly impaitent in the mirror 10 times a day with my face almost pressed up against the mirror fogging the glass up with my nostrills haha classy.

Also eek your brave but you gotta do what you gotta do huh re genital laser. GOOD LUCK!


We shed hairs on a daily basis.Once the hair's blood supply is destroyed by laser, electro or through the normal growth cycle of the hair it becomes a foreign object and the bodies natural course of action is to eject/expel it by slowly moving it to the surface. Most likely you are still shaving and it appears the hairs are untreated until the body works them close enough to the surface to fall out.


Yup still shaving ick.... but it's only been one week today since my session. Im terribly impaitent 3 weeks to go before my next session. Thanks everyone smile
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#327546 - 01/22/10 12:14 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: Beautiful_16]
Marcella Offline
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Registered: 03/31/03
Loc: Pasture
I'd say the thicker each individual hair is, the longer it takes to shed it.

The hair has to break through the upper layers of the skin. When it's fine, that is easy and takes a few days, up to a week.

When it's thick, it can take up to three weeks to get rid of them.
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#327564 - 01/22/10 04:26 PM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: Marcella]
Pink Cat Offline



Registered: 05/16/07
Loc: Oregon,
It took me 4 yrs of electrolysis. My first clearing took nine hours. That was at 2 hours a week. After that continued with 1 1/2 hr sessions once a week. I go back about every 6 months to get some stray hairs. It is only a 15 minute appt.

I have a girlfriend who started electroylysis before I did, and is still going , with one hour sessions.

All depends on how much facial hair you have to start with, and if you can have some laser done before you have to go to electrolysis. Myself I had gray facial hair so had to go with electrolysis.

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#329875 - 02/09/10 11:30 AM Re: Electro hair removal time frame! [Re: Pink Cat]
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Registered: 01/22/08
Loc: Strawberry Land
Well I havent ever been berry hairy, and I have been doing electro for about 1 1/2 years but I still have to shave but it is mostly cause when I touch my face I can feel the hairs there but it takes about 3 days before you can start to see them......... One thing I can say it learn pacients cause not 1 single part of transition is going to be fast, just stay positive and hang it there...............
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