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#330667 - 02/15/10 07:29 PM Re: creature of the wheel [Re: Bye]
Marcella Offline
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Registered: 03/31/03
Loc: Pasture
Fascism rocks! Vive la sameness!

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#330814 - 02/17/10 07:09 AM Re: creature of the wheel [Re: Gina9223]
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Registered: 05/16/07
Loc: Oregon,
Originally Posted By: Gina9223
As strange as it may seem…. I actually loved my time in the military. Yeah, I worked insane hours but that was part of the fun. Work 8 or 16 hours and then get told at the last second that your needed for a watch on a Friday night. So you run to get a shower and change and grab a book to read when nothing’s going on, get there, order a pizza to share with the junior person and watch the fun and games.

I really miss those late nights where we would get the phone calls about some drunk sailor who’d done something monumentally stupid… god, so many funny stories from that.

I’m still like that. At my current civilian job I’m only allowed to work 8 hours a day (that’s weird) unless there is something hot to process and even then it’s not that hard to do. (ok, normally not anything major) and quite frankly, it’s BORING. Day in and day out, drudge drudge drudge… no excitement, no change, the only stress is the normal work stress of getting the job done quickly, on time, on budget and correct the first time.

Meh… I work around engineers. They don’t have personalities, they have programs in Cobal 2.0. Their version of an argument is very boring to be around.


That is strange, I hated the military from day one. An back then ,there was no easy way out. The only good thing about the military, is that you learn a job.

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#330827 - 02/17/10 09:25 AM Re: creature of the wheel [Re: Pink Cat]
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Registered: 02/17/04
Loc: Earth, Nuked
I had a place where I worked for 20 years. I held about 4 different jobs there. Prior to that I was 5 years on a job, and prior to that 3. I hated every single one of them. They were boring, repetitive, and left no time for any creativitity. The good part was that I could work 8 and leave. My career goal was to hit the Lotto jackpot. Finally the last two years working I found out what I liked to do. I like to work with my hands. See I got "demoted" into a job where I did hardware support. Best job I'd had. But still 8 hrs/day of that was plenty.

I'm not money motivated. I'm not motivated period. So now I spend my life.... I sleep late. Read trashy novels. Watch trashy shows. Play trashy games. I like it this way. I'm not rich by any stretch, but I'm comfortable.
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#330831 - 02/17/10 10:49 AM Re: creature of the wheel [Re: Marcella]
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Registered: 07/06/05
Loc: western Canada
Originally Posted By: Marcella
Fascism rocks! Vive la sameness!



Ja! Lassen Sie ja uns, die alle unbedingt ähnlich in jedem denkbaren Weg sind. Spannung und neurotische Angst kommen, von verschieden zu sein. Ohne Unterschiede zu sehen, dass wir verschieden werden nicht sein wollen. .we auch nicht wird wissen, dass wir traurig sind.
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#330843 - 02/17/10 12:40 PM Re: creature of the wheel [Re: Morrigan]
Marcella Offline
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Registered: 03/31/03
Loc: Pasture
That's a good point, too. There is little envy, when we all feel the same.

The problem with multiculturalism is that, no matter what you do, you will always be offending someone.

The result is societies like this, where people live all in their little apartments, a sort of convoluted United Nations with a neighbor from Korea, one from Kenya, one from Lithuania, one from Morocco, etc.

All of us treading carefully, and never going beyond the most basic hello in order not to offend someone. You never know.

Better to never talk to anyone than to risk offending someone. You don't want to make enemies with those people. Who knows what that crazy Jew across the hallway may do if you get him mad. Or the old Russian lady. Or the Black guy in the wheelchair.

We all keep to ourselves and to our families. And nod to each other, when we meet out there, at most.

When I was new in town I had the dumb idea of wearing a costume for Hallowe'en. As a gypsy, the kind who reads the fortune. Of course, there was someone at the party who purported to be a real seer and who got offended over it.

Since then, I've learned how it should be. Now, I just nod, too.

Ah, gosh. Have we created paradise in here, or what?
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#330851 - 02/17/10 02:59 PM Re: creature of the wheel [Re: Bye]
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Registered: 12/02/09
Loc: Little Rock
Originally Posted By: Bye
What would you prefer to capitalism?

"Contributionism"
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#330999 - 02/19/10 05:07 PM Re: creature of the wheel [Re: qRachelp]
Morrigan Offline
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Registered: 07/06/05
Loc: western Canada
Originally Posted By: qRachelp
Originally Posted By: Bye
What would you prefer to capitalism?

"Contributionism"


You must understand - and I fervently wish that this was not so...I want to be wrong - that people are not first motivated by their better natures or a desire to be kind to others or anything altruistic. Each and every person living on this planet thinks first of themselves, even thought they might say, or even think otherwise.

Indeed, this is Adam Smith's famous invisible hand...the economy works, and the best is available for everyone if everyone selfishly and ruthlesly looks to their own best self intererests. You'll have much more success fostering justice and morality if you scare people into it than trust them to be just and moral.

Sadly, contributionism falls down when one considers the free rider. The free rider is someone who contributes nothing yet benfits as much as everyone else. Why should you give up any of your stuff when you get to keep and enjoy your stuff and plenty of everyone else's as well?

Especially as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels envisioned it, communism cannot exist with any other economic system in competition with it. Indeed, it is the economics of the post-apocalypse. After every other way to structure an economy has been tried and has failed, then communism may succeed, partly because every alternative has been tried and abandoned as useless.

Communism is what you're left with when the system crashes.
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#331003 - 02/19/10 05:35 PM Re: creature of the wheel [Re: Morrigan]
Marcella Offline
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Registered: 03/31/03
Loc: Pasture
Yup. All forms of altruism exist because of self-preservation.

For example, the social assistance system exists not out of compassion for the poor, unhealthy, unlucky and lazy, but because the population is scared of them, were they left to starve.

Because they wouldn't. Countries without any form of welfare have huge crime rates. Deny a person food, and (even if they are nothing but lazy good-for-nothings) they'll grab a knife and go out there get food somehow.

Even if it means killing, heck, even if it means cannibalism.

That's why good societies keep the social assistance system going. Without it, going to buy bread becomes a 50/50 survival rate proposition. And hungry people know how to stop cars, even.

They'd put tables with nails designed to make the tires explode, and once the car had to stop you were surrounded by kids with guns.

When hungry, people can be very inventive. And amazingly cruel.
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This a spiritual thing and I am the laughing Buddha sitting on top of the world. Donnalee.

"Populace above, populace below! What are 'poor' and 'rich' at present! That distinction did I unlearn,—then did I flee away further and ever further, until I came to those kine." --Thus Spake Zarathustra / Friedrich Nietzsche.

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#331005 - 02/19/10 06:49 PM Re: creature of the wheel [Re: Marcella]
Melanie Offline
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Registered: 05/08/08
Originally Posted By: Morrigan
Originally Posted By: qRachelp
Originally Posted By: Bye
What would you prefer to capitalism?

"Contributionism"


Each and every person living on this planet thinks first of themselves, even thought they might say, or even think otherwise.


If all I have is nothing then nothing is all I have to give. Damn straight it's me and mine 1st.

Originally Posted By: Marcella


They'd put tables with nails designed to make the tires explode, and once the car had to stop you were surrounded by kids with guns.

When hungry, people can be very inventive. And amazingly cruel.
Been to Mexico city,Rio or even Rome? Sew your pockets shut kid gangs will strip you nekked .


Edited by Melanie (02/19/10 06:51 PM)
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#331495 - 02/28/10 03:02 AM Re: creature of the wheel [Re: Bye]
Clockwork Kitten Offline
New Girl

Registered: 02/25/10
Loc: California
Working sucks. Especially when you're lazy, like I am. Unfortunately it's one of those things I realized I needed to do. I did put it off for a while and regretted it, as it was just a waste of my time not building up the foundation I needed to get somewhere. I look at it like this:

I asked myself the question: Would you be willing to give up 3-4 years of your life to become who you deserve to become? My answer was yes. There was no question.

These are my 3-4 years I am sacrificing to become who I need to be. They suck, and they're probably some of the worst years of my life, but they are being sacrificed for a greater good. Once all of the hardships are behind you and you can focus on living just for the sake of living, I'm sure that the whole 'job thing' won't be as much of a pain as it used to be. Well, at least it seems that way to me, but I'm still near the begining, so I can't speak from experience. But this idea has kept me marching forward, regardless of how much I've hated my life during these times. I hope it helps give you the strength to keep at it until you finally find a balance that makes you happy.

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