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#336251 - 09/01/10 01:01 PM Call for new laws on transgender rights
Hope_WA Offline
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Registered: 08/14/07
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His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
Jesus answered, "Neither he nor his parents sinned; it is so that the works of God might be made visible through him. "
John 9:2-3

Mahatma Ghandi, though a devout Hindu, was widely known to admire Jesus; Ghandi often quoted from the Sermon on the Mount, in fact. Once when the missionary E. Stanley Jones met with Ghandi he asked him, "Mr. Ghandi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?"
Ghandi replied, "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ."

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#336257 - 09/01/10 07:41 PM Re: Call for new laws on transsexual rights [Re: Hope_WA]
mixie Offline
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Registered: 01/07/09
Wouldn't it be absolutely amazing if just one, even one, U.S. state created specific and well written statutes that defined the rights of transsexual people?

Imagine a statute which specifically stated that after genital reconstruction surgery, the recipient of it would be legally deemed their post-surgical sex.

Imagine a statute which specifically stated the conditions under which transsexual people could get their driver's licenses, birth certificates, and names changed, and that the previous information would be sealed and any court record evidence shielded from the public for the protection of the transsexual's privacy and protection against harassment, including media harassment.

Imagine a statute that explicitly stated that in accordance with the recognition of a transsexual person's legal sex status after surgery, they would have the right to marry a person of the opposite genital sex (notwithstanding future statutes that allow any person to marry any other person).

Currently there isn't a single U.S. state that has such statutes.

All but a few states that allow changes to identity documents do so administratively, which has little force of law. In Texas, the Littleton v. Prange ruling stated this specifically, that the driver's license and birth certificate changes the state provides have zero legal meaning within that state (see quote of ruling in following article). That appeals court judge declared such changes purely "ministerial" and not legally binding.

http://thenikkiaraguztrial.blogspot.com/2010/08/examination-of-littleton-v-prange.html

If activists want to provide significant help to the transsexual population, lobbying state legislatures to adopt such statutes would go a long way toward establishing legal rights and recognition for transsexual people that exist now in only a very few U.S. states.

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#336264 - 09/02/10 11:48 PM Re: Call for new laws on transsexual rights [Re: mixie]
Natalie Offline
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Registered: 01/14/04
Loc: England
Like what we already have in place in england you mean mixie ?
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#336286 - 09/03/10 10:38 PM Re: Call for new laws on transsexual rights [Re: Natalie]
hollyb Offline
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Registered: 05/16/03
Loc: Northern California
Originally Posted By: Natalie
Like what we already have in place in england you mean mixie ?

In the UK, having genital reconstruction surgery is not sufficient to change gender. It is also required to get a gender specialist's report certifying that one is not intersex.

This arises because change under the GRA(2004) requires diagnosis of gender dysphoria and intersex prohibits such diagnosis. The British law has been a disaster for intersex people who were far better off under the previous arrangements.

Best hope is that the EP will indeed act and effectively overrule the GRA(2004).
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#336289 - 09/04/10 07:54 AM Re: Call for new laws on transsexual rights [Re: hollyb]
Natalie Offline
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Registered: 01/14/04
Loc: England
yeah ok but its the right way imho as i live here and know the system and think it works ok
With respect holly
Its much Changed and better here now than it was 30 years ago when you lived here honey

and We have a greater protection in employment and general life over here than in america as that transsexual widow case would have been thrown out of court at the first hurdle Like it should have been in america
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