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#4377 - 02/25/03 04:09 PM Re: Who was the first TS woman that you were aware *****
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The first person I know of would also have to be Tula. When I was a kid I over-heard a couple of boys talking about her. It immediately took my attention and was probably when I began to formulize my own problems into something more tangible and solvable

As for the first person I've knowingly met, it would have to be Emi. That's right, user "EmiOfBrie" on this very board! Meeting her finally brought me into thinking that I could transition myself.

Gummi Bears,

Chris

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#4378 - 02/25/03 05:04 PM Re: Who was the first TS woman that you were aware
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Registered: 01/04/03
Loc: Australia
April Ashley ...
I read about her in the paper and from that moment on, I knew it was possible to become a girl - so about 40 years later....
I did something about it

jenny

First one I met knowingly was in singapore when I was in the navy.... I met about twenty that night in Boogey Street - the TS centre of Asia at the time....
I almost jumped ship that night and stayed with them....
I wish I had - that was 1974 -
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#4379 - 02/25/03 05:53 PM Re: Who was the first TS woman that you were aware
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Registered: 02/14/03
I was thinking back, but I cannot think of anyone specific before Renee Richards, although I knew TSs existed long before that. I didn't go searching for information like many of you . . . I was too confused to know what to look for!

I have seen many TS women over the years, and a few F to Ms as well but I had not had a conversation with any until last Friday in Everett!
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#4380 - 02/25/03 06:15 PM Re: Who was the first TS woman that you were aware
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Registered: 01/01/03
Loc: Seattle, WA
And we were so happy to have a chance to meet and talk to you.

Huggs,
Sarah
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#4381 - 02/26/03 04:28 AM Re: Who was the first TS woman that you were aware
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Registered: 12/08/02
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The first TS I ever heard of was a swedish( I think ) person in the 1930's ,I can't rem her name. I read about her in a old library book when I was 13. She died from an ovary transplant(someone check that out?) The first TS I ever saw, was a woman who visited my college sex history class in 1990.
annette

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#4382 - 02/26/03 09:42 AM Re: Who was the first TS woman that you were aware
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Thailand, 1991... cabaret show..omg.. they were everywhere and all gorgeous and I was soooo jealous...my brother almost left with one.. come to think of it, Juel (her name) is still one of my role models.. she was one bike riding, dancing and singing bad mamajama.. never actually met her though.. just kinda watched from afar.. my cousin and I weren't even supposed to be out with my brother and other cousin that night.. Hmm.. makes me wonder now..why was it that I wasn't allowed to go..I'm older dagnabit.. I need to call my grandmama.. and see if she knew back then or something.. grrrrr... reflections of the past do nothing but make me grrrr...

Y'know..if everyone around you knows something about you that you haven't realized..shouldn't they tell you or something? .. Seriously..

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#4383 - 02/26/03 09:57 AM Re: Who was the first TS woman that you were aware
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Registered: 02/08/03
Loc: Hopkins, MN
zerepa wrote:
The first TS I ever heard of was a swedish( I think ) person in the 1930's ,I can't rem her name. I read about her in a old library book when I was 13. She died from an ovary transplant(someone check that out?)

She was likely the subject of the book "The Danish Girl". I forgot her actual name though. She was the first to ever go through SRS. She originally got a primitive version of vaginoplasty. Later though, they had tried to give her 'the works'. They were not aware back then that transplantation of an entire reproductive system is sketchy at best (they've just recently begun to re-research that possibility)
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#4384 - 02/26/03 02:52 PM Re: Who was the first TS woman that you were aware
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Registered: 01/28/03
Loc: Seattle, WA
I really enjoyed reading "The Danish Girl"...It's a wonderful and sweet book, and I recommend it.
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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
- Frank Herbert

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#4385 - 02/27/03 03:36 AM Re: Who was the first TS woman that you were aware
zerepa Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Loc: arizona
Thanks EmiOf Brie! I believe that is the book, its a sad ending,although if I recall she wanted to undergo the surgery for her boyfriend( her former male best friend).
Thanks eob!
annette

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#4386 - 02/28/03 09:16 AM Re: Who was the first TS woman that you were aware of?
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Christine jorgensen, most definitely.. I thought it was the coolest thing ever.. I hesitantly asked my mother all about it when I was 5 years old...it was right at the same time that I had noticed how much I liked the idea of being a girl instead of a boy... She told me that Christine had started manifesting female attributes ( breasts etc) and so she HAD to have a sex change... I spent the next 10 years praying for breast developement so I too would HAVE TO HAVE a sex change only to become more and more discouraged.. Still the urge was very strong and I consciously and unconsciously continued to express my femininity in any way that I could without getting into TROUBLE.. Luckily the hippie movement , glitter rock and punk rock came along. I was rebellious and the black sheep of the family .. I would sooner have brought down the entirety of western civilization than grow up to be a man in it.. I was happy enough in my weirdness but often ashamed of it.. I met many drag queens and like marginals over the years and was always fascinated... Frankenfurter, from Rocky Horror, however frightened me off the idea because I was affraid I would end up or be seen as such a person..I had thought of getting bootleg hormones in the early 70's but was scared off that with the death of Candy Darling who was my dream ideal...I purged myself completely between Aug 1988 and Jan 2001 and thought that I had finally OUTGROWN it...

BUT.....

suddenly SHE was there again and stronger than ever.. I went fulltime during the next summer saying, "I don t care what anyone thinks anymore, I AM HAPPY and I will not go back"..on the first of January 2002 I wrote an e-mail to a stranger whose name intrigued me from a Candy Darling Yahoo group.. I had never done such a thing before in my life.. She wrote right back and we began a deep relationship, she was the first T-girl I had ever met and she was six months into HRT.. Her name was foxglove9 and I love her more than anyone, although we have no RELATIONSHIP. She is my SISTER. Three weeks later I began HRT myself... Stephanie ( I helped choose her name) is now my number one assistant with my record label. I don't know what I ever would have done without her.. We met in person for the first time last February and walked around Manhattan together and she went to my show at Manatoba's.. we are devoted to one another in ways that I can't explain..She doesn't go to these "older" girl forums.. but has many friends in the "Aubrey Frost/TGclubhouse circle".. mostly under 30 T girls..She was also the NewYork State Nintendo Champion when she was 12 and looked like Bart Simpson.. She has transitioned into a very elegant and pretty young lady..I can't exactly say that she is a roll model because she is half my age but we have both had a profound influence on one another.

donna

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